Finitely presented solvable groups that do not satisfy the maximal condition for normal subgroups

1984 ◽  
Vol 36 (2) ◽  
pp. 577-580
Author(s):  
Yu. V. Sosnovskii
1978 ◽  
Vol 26 (1) ◽  
pp. 115-125 ◽  
Author(s):  
J. R. J. Groves

AbstractThe class of finitely generated soluble coherent groups is considered. It is shown that these groups have the maximal condition on normal subgroups and can be characterized in a number of ways. In particular, they are precisely the class of finitely generated soluble groups G with the property:Subject classification (Amer. Math. Soc. (MOS) 1970): primary 20 E 15; secondary 20 F 05.


2019 ◽  
Vol 18 (04) ◽  
pp. 1950074
Author(s):  
Xuewu Chang

The normal embedding problem of finite solvable groups into [Formula: see text]-groups was studied. It was proved that for a finite solvable group [Formula: see text], if [Formula: see text] has a special normal nilpotent Hall subgroup, then [Formula: see text] cannot be a normal subgroup of any [Formula: see text]-group; on the other hand, if [Formula: see text] has a maximal normal subgroup which is an [Formula: see text]-group, then [Formula: see text] can occur as a normal subgroup of an [Formula: see text]-group under some suitable conditions. The results generalize the normal embedding theorem on solvable minimal non-[Formula: see text]-groups to arbitrary [Formula: see text]-groups due to van der Waall, and also cover the famous counterexample given by Dade and van der Waall independently to the Dornhoff’s conjecture which states that normal subgroups of arbitrary [Formula: see text]-groups must be [Formula: see text]-groups.


2013 ◽  
Vol 12 (05) ◽  
pp. 1250204
Author(s):  
AMIN SAEIDI ◽  
SEIRAN ZANDI

Let G be a finite group and let N be a normal subgroup of G. Assume that N is the union of ξ(N) distinct conjugacy classes of G. In this paper, we classify solvable groups G in which the set [Formula: see text] has at most three elements. We also compute the set [Formula: see text] in most cases.


Author(s):  
C. K. Gupta

In (2), Hall considered the question: for what varieties of soluble groups do all finitely generated groups satisfy max-n (the maximal condition for normal subgroups)? He has shown that the variety M of metabelian groups and more generally the variety of Abelian-by-nilpotent-of-class-c (c ≥ 1) groups has this property; whereas on the contrary, there are finitely generated groups in the variety V of centre-by-metabelian groups (i.e. defined by the law [x, y; u, v; z]) which do not satisfy max-n. One naturally raises the question: for what subvarieties of V do all finitely generated groups satisfy max-n?


2019 ◽  
Vol 150 (3) ◽  
pp. 1139-1154
Author(s):  
Thiebout Delabie ◽  
Ana Khukhro

AbstractWe use a coarse version of the fundamental group first introduced by Barcelo, Kramer, Laubenbacher and Weaver to show that box spaces of finitely presented groups detect the normal subgroups used to construct the box space, up to isomorphism. As a consequence, we have that two finitely presented groups admit coarsely equivalent box spaces if and only if they are commensurable via normal subgroups. We also provide an example of two filtrations (Ni) and (Mi) of a free group F such that Mi > Ni for all i with [Mi:Ni] uniformly bounded, but with $\squ _{(N_i)}F$ not coarsely equivalent to $\squ _{(M_i)}F$. Finally, we give some applications of the main theorem for rank gradient and the first ℓ2 Betti number, and show that the main theorem can be used to construct infinitely many coarse equivalence classes of box spaces with various properties.


Author(s):  
DANIEL ALLCOCK

We generalize a theorem of R. Thomas, which sometimes allows one to tell by inspection that a finitely presented group G is infinite. Groups to which his theorem applies have presentations with not too many more relators than generators, with at least some of the relators being proper powers. Our generalization provides lower bounds for the ranks of the abelianizations of certain normal subgroups of G in terms of their indices. We derive Thomas's theorem as a special case.


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